The humidifier predated the babe so we decided to go all out and buy a new baby oriented one. A friend of ours had a cool ultrasonic humidifier shaped like a frog. Ultrasonic was important to us (me) because that would mean we (I) wouldn't be cleaning any more mineral deposits.Mrs. Lubab went to Bed Bath & Beyond and came home with an "Adorable Penguin Ultrasonic Humidifier".
"I wanted to get the frog." she said, "but all they had left were pigs and penguins, and I definitely wasn't going to buy a pig!"
"Definitely? Why not?" I asked.
"Please. I'm not going to have a pig humidifier." she said.
I didn't push it. But, I got the impression that her reaction was religious based. It could be that she just doesn't like pigs but I think it relates to my earlier post Bringing Home Bacon (in which I talked about Chabad's efforts to keep their children away from toys depicting non-kosher animals). Maybe in normal Orthodoxy there is some sense that we should keep pigs out of our homes.
Do you think this is true?
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>Do you think this is true?
Yes, to some degree.
My FIL was slightly suprised that we allowed my daughter to play with a toy pig (not noticing the fact that there was also a wooden camel there as well).
My daughter's school did not like the fact that one of the teachers made a play about the 3 little pigs.
But I would say most people don't care
HH,
People also seem perfectly fine with hares/jackrabbits. Though I've never seen a hyrax at Cheder. Hmmm... something to think about.
It's so funny how different cultures react differently to animals. The Chinese, for instance, adore little piggies and think they're the epitome of cute. Americans, not so much. As for Jews, we've been programmed to find them disgusting, even though most of us have never even touched a real one!
I am glad you're standing up for piggies' rights here on LNM. We should give the animals a break. BTW, they are very similar to humans from a physiological standpoint and will eventually become organ donor animals for humans.
It's not rocket science. A pig has just become the dominant symbol of anything treif. Of course in Europe, you wouldn't find camels, and hares are probably cuter over the mud bathing pig. It's more of a psychological thing, I think.
>and will eventually become organ donor animals for humans.
I thought they already were.
BTW- Did anyone see the episode of Grey's Anatomy once when a Reform couple had a BT daughter that REFUSED to get a an orgran transplant from a Pig? They made her out to be so nasty and fundamentalist.
> episode of Grey's Anatomy... They made her out to be so nasty and fundamentalist.
Yes. They also presented an incorrect view of halacha. On the other hand, perhaps it was a reasonably accurate depiction of some BTs who take things to extremes? (Said the son of two BTs).
"Yes. They also presented an incorrect view of halacha. On the other hand, perhaps it was a reasonably accurate depiction of some BTs who take things to extremes? (Said the son of two BTs)."
TV programs have a habit of getting things wrong about Judaism which makes me suspect they may get other groups wrong. Definitely never learn about other cultures through sitcoms.
>Definitely never learn about other cultures through sitcoms.
You're right, but I have to agree with Candy man that they portrayed a BT quite accuaretly (full of zeal), though, I think their aim was to just slam at fundamentalist religious people on the whole.
"You're right, but I have to agree with Candy man that they portrayed a BT quite accuaretly (full of zeal), though, I think their aim was to just slam at fundamentalist religious people on the whole."
I see Baalei Teshuva at different levels of zeal. Many are not zealous but blend in perfectly.
What makes a penguin any more kosher then a pig ? They are both equally treif. Besides I used to have a green piggy bank when I was a kid and it didn"t harm my beliefs in any way. I mean look at how I turned out to be. Oh maybe you should just disregard that last statement.....Avi
>Many are not zealous but blend in perfectly.
Heh. You know thats just a myth
"Holy Hyrax said...
>Many are not zealous but blend in perfectly.
Heh. You know thats just a myth"
Which the blending or the fire breathing BT?
the blending
The Chinese, for instance, adore little piggies and think they're the epitome of cute. Americans, not so much.
Was this a statement of the relative adoration of pigs in the two cultures? Most of the Americans I know think little pigs are pretty damn adorable. Think Babe.
TV programs have a habit of getting things wrong about Judaism which makes me suspect they may get other groups wrong. Definitely never learn about other cultures through sitcoms.
Amen to that.
The piggy is definitely the cutest. The froggy is a distant second. The penguin, that you have in your house...a little less cute than the froggy. But I had to look up why a penguin is not kosher, and the other two are obviously treifidik.
I had a boss who collected piggies. She had piggies all over her house. We once went on a trip together, and she bought some pork rinds as a snack. I had a hard time having pork rinds in my car.
"Holy Hyrax said...
the blending"
Well there are plenty of blenders. I know them. I'm sure there are plenty of fire breathing dragons too.
" The Candy Man said...
It's so funny how different cultures react differently to animals. The Chinese, for instance, adore little piggies and think they're the epitome of cute. Americans, not so much. As for Jews, we've been programmed to find them disgusting, even though most of us have never even touched a real one!"
Well you have to remember the Jews at the time of the Maccabees were not being forced to sacrifice penguins to Zeus.
their similarity to humans is one reason it would seem icky to eat them. we're not allowed to eat animals that high up on the evolutionary scale. its just wrong.
i would think youd want kids to identify with pigs and have pigs as toys. it would make them less inclined to eat pork.
i thought that the most recent episode of house did a pretty good job depicting frum jews
LNM,
"Maybe in normal Orthodoxy there is some sense that we should keep pigs out of our homes."
Hum, maybe. Obviously chazar is low on the Jewish favor zoological survey, but it's symbolism as something anti-Jewish go beyond issues of kashrut.
maybe if they have a pig toy they will think pigs are cute, and be less likely to eat them.
Ha, I actually watched that episode of House, and I think they did a nice job with it. Although my memory might be fuzzy because the episode aired a long time ago, no real halachic issues came up regarding medicine except for the fact that woman didn't want to have a surgery until her husband said kiddush, which the husband objected to on the basis of pikuach nefesh. All in all, Judaism was not portrayed that badly and certantly not any worse than Dr. House has treated other religions.
If the only animals you have likenesses of in your home are ones you eat, that's kind of... creepy. If it's specifically animals you can't eat that you don't have, then what about the dog and cat? Neither of those is on the menu either.
"I remember growing up with Mr. Fluffems... until we ate him for dinner... Now look at my therapy bills! Why daddy?! WHY?!"
Yeah...
There are plenty in chabad that will not buy animal crackers for their kids. Truth.
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